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“There’s magic within the making an attempt and studying and making an attempt once more.. however any unprocessed PTSD will come again to hang-out you” Avni Patel Thompson on the Superpowers Of Second Time Founders


Typically you meet a founder throughout a startup pitch and also you simply know you’re going to be buddies, no matter whether or not they take your cash or not. Avni Patel Thompson is a kind of folks. And I was proper! So when writing about Second Time Founders, Avni got here to the highest of my listing. We’ve talked typically about this subject and a fast interview changed into the ideas under (and you will get wonderful essays on startup life from her free Substack publication).

I like being a second-time founder.

It’s like having your second child. You don’t sweat the small stuff as a result of you realize what the small stuff truly is. You’re feeling extra assured in your instincts and depend on your intestine greater than your hyperactive thoughts and what different hyperactive minds round you let you know.

You may have a common sense of the form of issues — the highs, the lows, the issues to be careful for, the issues to not stress about so desperately.

Being a second time founder is such a present in so some ways.

However it will also be a hazard. There’s a distinctive taste of paranoid confidence that’s bestowed upon repeat founders — extra assured in what’s potential and how one can pursue it, but additionally consistently conscious of all of the methods you’ll be able to fuck it up.

Past that, startup years are laborious on a founder. The hours labored, the center and soul consumed, the unimaginable choices, the painful folks calls. All buried deep down, in service of maintaining the corporate alive.

All of this accumulates and except it’s being processed by some excessive energy remedy (which, let’s be sincere, for many of us, it isn’t), it’s simply pile on and piles up, a poisonous carbon compressed beneath the very best of pressures right into a lethal diamond that’s what shines when others take a look at us.

However we all know the reality. It’s harmful if not dealt with accurately. As a substitute of the being the toughest substance that offers us superhuman energy, it may be the brittle kryptonite that crumbles with the fallacious crack and results in our downfall.

Should you’ve been a founder and also you’re contemplating getting again into the sector right here’s what I might say are the three largest superpowers you’ll be able to depend on and the three areas of hazard to concentrate on.

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The ‘upside’

You belief your intestine greater than every other enter. This, I suppose is THE most vital factor, and my guess for if second time founders are extra profitable, the rationale why. That you just even have a intestine to belief. Over the months and years of the primary firm, we’ve all constructed up a way of how one can issues and how one can do it in a means that works for us. With Poppy, I would consistently be asking others how to consider hiring and giving fairness; about elevating cash; about product sprints and progress. With Milo, I understand how to do it, and the way I can do it higher and quicker for me. Doesn’t make the doing of it any of any simpler per se, however at the least this time round I don’t have the burden of my newness weighing me down at every flip.

You can also make larger, bolder calls. As a result of you realize the lay of the start-up sport higher, you can begin being bolder on what you’re constructing, particularly as a result of it’s seemingly you’re capable of elevate extra capital to do it with. You’re additionally constructing with all of the laborious fought learnings you gained from sure, your final startup, but additionally all the opposite experiences in your life. You’re capable of join extra dots in additional distinctive methods as a result of you have got extra perception and intuition.

You are able to do extra, as a result of you’ll be able to see extra.

That stated, this cuts each methods. Being a repeat founder carries the burden of understanding when a factor isn’t working and understanding that it’s a must to make harsher calls, quicker. You possibly can’t declare ignorance. So it’s a must to make the equally larger, extra brutal group and product calls.

You possibly can out persist even your former self. This one stands to be actually confirmed however, in my case, my first start-up was type of unintended. I used to be curious greater than something and I discovered myself making an attempt to do proper by a product that simply took off. To begin Milo, I needed to make the specific name that I used to be going to do that once more. That I used to be keen to dedicate the following decade of my life — of my women’ lives — to this. That made me select an issue and an area that I knew I might make my life’s work if I used to be fortunate sufficient to maintain it going. I began this one understanding that it was a marathon and have been pacing myself as such. It’s nonetheless at a dash tempo however one which I understand how to keep up when and the way I must.

I might let you know extra methods being a second time founder helps — established investor community, higher hiring pool, deal with distribution vs. product — however in the long run, all that issues, I suppose, is that it provides me the arrogance to do a factor that requires infinite boatloads of it, powered by my intestine, which I belief above all. Even above my closest mentors and buddies. That’s the final word superpower.

And the ‘draw back’

And if these are the issues you’ll be able to depend on as tailwinds, right here’s what I suppose are the headwinds:

Any unprocessed PTSD will come again to hang-out you. There’s a joke amongst founders that it doesn’t matter what house you’re employed in on the primary, you vow to by no means do this once more. Market folks leaping to saas software program, saas folks leaping to {hardware}, {hardware} folks leaping to anything. It’s a kind of “if you happen to don’t snigger, you’ll cry” sort of jokes.

As a result of what every of us works on is very complicated and we study the laborious means all of the brick partitions that exist in a class (by working head first into them, realizing it’s not one that may be bust by way of, and main our battered our bodies and groups round it). For Poppy, it was the relentlessness of constructing a market — there was actually by no means relaxation. Repair one facet, break the opposite and on and on you go, without end. That’s the sport. Add on the labor legislation and belief and security components of a childcare market and I vowed to myself to take a break from folks and marketplaces and to enter “simply” software program.

That PTSD put blinders on me on how a real resolution would work for what I’m constructing with Milo till I used to be keen to rethink each folks and a market. Then, guess what? An unlock based mostly on my capability to construct with each.

The lesson? Relaxation. After which course of that PTSD so you’ll be able to construct this subsequent start-up with none of the dangerous baggage.

Your understanding an excessive amount of can keep your hand and make you timid. There’s energy within the sheer naivety of a first-time founder. I used to be too clueless to know higher, and in lots of methods, it helped me preserve going even within the face of silly odds. This time round, I might get into my head earlier than I might ever get occurring a factor. The worry would roar louder, fuelled by the reminiscence and ache and skepticism held by my physique. I might hypothesize all of the methods this factor wouldn’t work, or couldn’t become profitable or would simply lead to weeks wasted. Mockingly, I wasted weeks as a result of my “understanding an excessive amount of” received in my very own means.

In time, I needed to study to only deal with my finest testable speculation. To make use of all my data to craft that, after which to only get going. Understanding higher could be a good factor — however let it energy your intestine, not cloud your thoughts.

It might probably preserve you within the sport too lengthy. It virtually doesn’t matter how your first startup went. The second go at it comes with greater stakes. Should you knocked it out of the park, you’re being chased by the ghosts of a “one-hit-wonder”. Should you failed and both ended up as an “acquihire” or a shut-down like Poppy, you’re been chased by the ghosts of “don’t even have what it takes”. Both means, this level of ego and satisfaction performs together with your thoughts and the way lengthy you persist on a factor. I’ve discovered myself going longer on a product or a path as a result of “it needed to work” and “I couldn’t fail” greater than what truly served the corporate. I’ve needed to actually simply recover from this. To know that my price as a founder isn’t wrapped up within the consequence of even this go at it, however reasonably how I’m going about constructing it. That even when this had been to finish once more not how I needed, that I might nonetheless have a subsequent chapter. That is actually more durable to do in apply than idea, particularly when you have got a household and payments to pay and a really actual “alternative value”. And but. Mockingly, this will make you make the sort of dangerous calls that can sink you anyway. Keep within the sport so long as it serves the aim and serves you.


I love being a second time founder. However as you’ll be able to see, the advantages come at a price, as most issues of worth do.

Above all: I get up with gratitude. That I’m one of many fortunate few that will get to do that job. That will get to stand up and take a look at. Once more and many times. And if the fee is that I have to be as self-aware as I can, of my personal limitations and fallibility, I’m okay with that.

As a result of breakthrough lies within the making an attempt many times. Within the 10,000 ways in which don’t work till you discover the one which does.

So my hope is for the world to have numerous second and third and fourth time founders, irrespective of the person end result.

There’s magic within the making an attempt and studying and making an attempt once more.

And I wouldn’t change that superpower, irrespective of all of the kryptonite.

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