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ShopWithMe operates from the area (“shopwithme.biz”), privately registered on April 14th, 2021.
On June thirtieth BehindMLM reader Melanie famous a Direct Promoting Journal article. The June twenty eighth article represents ShopWithMe was launched by Christian Wiesner.
Christian Wiesner begins the brand new social commerce revolution with Shopwithme!
The founding father of Shopwithme GmbH, headquartered within the federal capital, is Dr. Keywan Grashoff, mom of Christian Wiesner.
Wiesner’s title seems as a “consultant” on ShopWithMe’s web site.
Contact particulars offered verify ShopWithMe is included in Germany. The company handle offered nonetheless belongs to Regus, a digital workplace service provider.
Christian Wiesner is thought to BehindMLM as founder and CEO of WellStar.
In 2015 BehindMLM lined a spat between Wiesner and Kari Wahlroos.
Wahlroos joined WellStar in 2014 and rapidly rose to the rank of Crown Ambassador. Wahlroos was steadily cited as certainly one of WellStar’s “prime leaders”.
Then in late 2015, Wahlroos bailed from WellStar to entrance the infamous OneCoin Ponzi scheme.
This didn’t sit effectively with Wiesner.
Wiesner accused Wahlroos of participating in “felony conduct”. Wahlroos circled and, in a public letter, offered perception into WellStar’s enterprise operations.
The actual concern right here is that, as Wellstars No1 and essentially the most profitable chief, I’ve determined that this firm won’t ever ship on the guarantees you make.
I’ve had numerous discussions with you to repair the countless issues and also you by no means ship. All we now have been instructed by you, for over 18 months, is ‘recruit extra’ and ‘promote extra tickets’.
The administration of Wellstar stays a shame.
Merchandise flaws. A product returns system that doesn’t work. Non-existent of buyer help, horrible accomplice help.
What number of instances did my workforce have to indicate the issues with you attempting to assert that we had been at fault?
I beloved the product idea and I such as you personally but professionally as a CEO you don’t ship so the corporate is a large number.
We each know that so many leaders have stop as a result of they don’t earn any cash so you need to launch a brand new nation each 3 months.
BehindMLM reviewed WellStar in January 2016. What we discovered appeared to verify Wahlroos’ account.
Whether or not it’s language-barrier points, the truth that WellStar was based twelve years in the past – regardless of the purpose – WellStar as an MLM alternative is in determined want of an overhaul.
Issues come up with an absence of disclosure on the WellStar web site, spanning retail costs, affiliate membership prices and primary compensation plan data.
As to the compensation plan itself, there’s loads of data offered however not a lot of it makes any sense.
We recognized autoship recruitment on the core of WellStar’s enterprise mannequin, which might certainly make it a pyramid scheme.
As reported by BehindMLM readers, WellStar would go on to break down in mid to late 2020. The corporate’s web site disappeared in early 2021.
As of mid 2021 Wiesner was amid a WellStar shell firm mess. This might ultimately outcome within the insolvency of WellStar GmbH & Co. KG, ordered by a German courtroom on February fifteenth, 2022.
ShopWithMe surfaced a number of months later.
I think Wiesner’s WellStar shell firm shenanigans are why his mom is being credited as ShopWithMe’s founder.
Learn on for a full overview of ShopWithMe’s MLM alternative.
ShopWithMe’s Merchandise
ShopWithMe has no retailable services or products itself.
ShopWithMe supplies entry to an ecommerce platform, populated with merchandise from third-parties.
In an official ShopWithMe advertising and marketing video, Wiesner claims merchandise provided span magnificence, health and wellness.
ShopWithMe’s Compensation Plan
ShopWithMe’s compensation plan pays on product orders by retail prospects and recruited associates.
Like several ecommerce platform, ShopWithMe earns a fee from retailers whose merchandise function on its platform.
A share of that fee funds ShopWithMe’s compensation plan.
To maintain issues easy, except explicitly in any other case acknowledged, “prospects” hereafter refers to each retail prospects and recruited associates.
ShopWithMe Affiliate Ranks
There are seven ranks inside ShopWithMe’s compensation plan.
Together with their respective qualification standards, they’re as follows:
- Affiliate – enroll as a ShopWithMe affiliate
- Nationwide Success Coach (NSC) – generate 400 PV and purchase 5 tickets
- Worldwide Success Coach (ISC) – recruit thirty NSCs
- Gold Government Chief (GEL) – recruit fifty NSCs
- Gold Government Director (GED) – recruit 100 NSCs or three ISCs
- Gold Government President (GEP) – recruit 100 and fifty NSCs or 5 ISCs
- Chairman Government (CE) – recruit 100 and fifty NSCs or 5 ISCs
The next is a advertising and marketing slide from an official presentation by Christian Wiesner:
Most of it doesn’t make sense however I used to be capable of comply with the 400 PV NSC xx ISC rank qualification standards. I don’t know what all the opposite stuff is and Wiesner doesn’t clarify.
“Tickets” refers to ShopWithMe advertising and marketing occasions, hosted by Wiesner.
ShopWithMe advertising and marketing occasion tickets are €9.95 EUR and €4.95 within the Baltic international locations.
Wiesner states the worth distinction for the Baltic international locations is as a result of “folks have little or no revenue there”.
Private Buyer Commissions
ShopWithMe associates earn a fee on purchases by personally referred prospects.
You may earn on any buyer shopping for merchandise on the shopwithme platform as much as 21%.
Your Fee is relying on the rebate standing stage the Buyer is shopping for at Shopwithme.
“Rebate standing” standards just isn’t offered.
Residual Buyer Commissions
ShopWithMe pays residual buyer buy commissions by way of a unilevel compensation construction.
A unilevel compensation construction locations an affiliate on the prime of a unilevel workforce, with each personally recruited affiliate positioned straight below them (stage 1):
If any stage 1 associates recruit new associates, they’re positioned on stage 2 of the unique affiliate’s unilevel workforce.
If any stage 2 associates recruit new associates, they’re positioned on stage 3 and so forth and so forth down a theoretical infinite variety of ranges.
ShopWithMe caps payable unilevel workforce ranges at ten.
You may earn one other 42% on PV (Provision Quantity) of all Buyer orders of as much as 10 ranges of SBOs of your workforce.
Particular fee charges throughout the ten unilevel workforce ranges are usually not offered.
Momentum Bonus
The Momentum Bonus is out there to new ShopWithMe associates, throughout their first twelve weeks with the corporate.
The Momentum Bonus is made up of commissionable gross sales quantity.
PV stands for “Private Quantity” and is gross sales quantity generated by an affiliate.
GV stands for “Group Quantity”. GV is PV generated by an affiliate and their downline.
The Momentum Bonus is paid out utilizing the identical unilevel workforce as “Residual Buyer Commissions” (see above).
There are 4 tiers to the Momentum Bonus, based mostly on PV and GV era:
- Bonus Begin (generate 160 PV) – obtain a 20% Momentum Bonus on stage 1 and 5% on ranges 2 and three
- Advance Begin (generate 320 PV and 1200 GV) – obtain a 25% Momentum Bonus on stage 1, 5% on stage 2, 10% on stage 3 and 5% on stage 4
- Energy Begin (generate 400 PV and 2800 GV) – obtain a 35% Momentum Bonus on stage 1, 5% on stage 2, 10% on ranges 3 and 4, 5% on stage 5 and a pair of% on ranges 6 and seven
- Turbo Begin (generate 480 PV and 4000 GV) – obtain a 40% Momentum Bonus on stage 1, 5% on stage 2, 10% on ranges 3 and 4 and 5% on ranges 5 to eight
The Momentum Bonus is paid out weekly. ShopWithMe nonetheless don’t specify the whether or not PV/GV necessities are recurring over a set time interval or accrued.
If I needed to guess I’d assume Momentum Bonus PV/GV necessities are weekly or month-to-month recurring ove the twelve-week qualification interval.
Bonus Swimming pools
ShopWithMe rewards NSC and better ranked associates with a share in six rank-specific bonus swimming pools:
- qualify at NSC and obtain a share in a 1% Bonus Pool (2% if NSC certified for inside 12 weeks of signing up)
- qualify at ISC and obtain a share in a 3% Bonus Pool (6% if ISC certified for inside 12 weeks of qualifying at NSC)
- qualify at GEL and obtain a share in a 4% Bonus Pool (8% if GEL certified for inside 12 weeks of qualifying at ISC)
- qualify at GED and obtain a share in a 5% Bonus Pool (10% if GED certified for inside 12 weeks of qualifying at GEL)
- qualify at GEP and obtain a share in a 6% Bonus Pool (12% if GEP certified for inside 12 weeks of qualifying at GED)
- qualify at CE and obtain a share in a 7% Bonus Pool (14% if CE certified for inside 12 weeks of qualifying at GEP)
Bonus Swimming pools are funded as a share of ShopWithMe’s company-wide commissionable gross sales quantity.
Observe that ShopWithMe doesn’t present rank qualification standards.
Becoming a member of ShopWithMe
ShopWithMe affiliate membership prices are not disclosed.
ShopWithMe Conclusion
Though it’s offered as an ecommerce enterprise…
Shopwithme is the 100% Turnkey Social Commerce Enterprise, serving to anyone to take part within the Social Commerce Megatrend with none Enterprise expertise & conventional enterprise danger!
Shopwithme is creating & introducing revolutionary new instruments and applied sciences to make social commerce referrals quick, enjoyable, and simple.
Members can save 1000nds of Euros a 12 months for minutes of straightforward & enjoyable On-line Sharing Actions!
Shopwithme Store House owners can earn on hundreds of Wellness, Magnificence & Private Care Health Merchandise & many Extra with out ever investing Cash right into a Warehouse, Customer support, or sophisticated product approvals and imports.
Just by Inviting New Members to your Store, who can save as much as to 90% on their favourite Merchandise for inviting their pals = extra New Members to your store!!!
Since most of our prospects will purchase the Merchandise on month-to-month Reorder, you’ll be able to construct a really substantial passive Earnings very half time, with zero value for warehouse & Workers!
…ShopWithMe is a continuation of Christian Wiesner’s failed WellStar “promote tickets!” mannequin.
To cite once more what Kari Wahlroos introduced this up in 2015:
I’ve had numerous discussions with you to repair the countless issues and also you by no means ship. All we now have been instructed by you, for over 18 months, is ‘recruit extra’ and ‘promote extra tickets’.
I didn’t know what that meant on the time however having sat although certainly one of Wiesner’s ShopWithMe displays, shopping for and promoting tickets is principally all he talked about.
Shopping for 5 tickets apparently qualifies you as a Nationwide Success Coach.
Shopping for ten tickets qualifies you for “Stage 2”, a meet and greet at an area ShopWithMe occasion.
Shopping for 100 tickets between you and your downline qualifies you for “Stage 3”, a dinner with Wiesner.
How Wiesner describes the Stage 3 dinner is… odd.
Stage 3 is a CEO dinner, proper after the occasion. Going to dinner with Ghazala and Christian.
Precisely, you heard it. That is one thing regular folks solely dream about.
This can be a very, very unique dinner desk. You usually should be Triple Champion to dream about sitting there.
And proper after the occasion when everyone must go house, you’ll inform them, “Oh I’d like to go house with you however the CEO requested me for personal dinners [sic]. So sorry I can’t include you.”
Meet and greet is a glass of champagne. Fifteen minutes, chitty-chatty, photograph photograph and that’s it. Thanks very a lot and goodbye.
Personal dinner proper now could be actually costly. Actually costly.
For those who don’t have 100 tickets, don’t name your self a pacesetter.
You’ve acquired to advertise 100 tickets in your workforce, and also you’ll be invited to a CEO dinner.
Riiiiiiiigh………..t.
Wiesner characterizes ShopWithMe advertising and marketing occasions as “excursions”.
I went again and checked out what sense I used to be capable of make of WellStar’s compensation plan in BehindMLM’s unique overview.
Rank names and payout constructions have modified however many of the issues famous again in 2016 are nonetheless current.
Whether or not it’s language-barrier points, the truth that WellStar was based twelve years in the past – regardless of the purpose – WellStar as an MLM alternative is in determined want of an overhaul.
Issues come up with an absence of disclosure on the WellStar web site, spanning retail costs, affiliate membership prices and primary compensation plan data.
As to the compensation plan itself, there’s loads of data offered however not a lot of it makes any sense.
Change WellStar with ShopWithMe, and 6 years on all of that holds true.
It’s a fairly poor reflection of Wiesner’s govt model, however comprehensible if he’s solely targeted on promoting tickets to occasions the place he’s the focal point.
It’s value noting that at no level throughout the 47 minute “leaders” ShopWithMe advertising and marketing presentation I sat by means of, did Wiesner point out retail gross sales of any type.
ShopWithMe is all about recruitment and promoting tickets. The precise issues Kari Wahlroos complained about in 2015.
Heck, I couldn’t even confirm ShopWithMe’s ecommerce platform even exists.
Wiesner claims that ShopWithMe associates will have the ability to construct “full time revenue with only one hour a day effort”. That’s clearly not achievable, and within the US could be a major instance of an FTC violation.
For now ShopWithMe is being pitched to international locations Wiesner can get to on his “excursions”, specifically Europe.
SimilarWeb presently pegs nearly all of site visitors to ShopWithMe’s web site as originating from Germany (32%, down 84% month on month Might to June).
Algeria (19%), the US (14%), the UK (11%) and Pakistan (9%) are different international locations ShopWithMe is being promoted in.
No matter the place it’s being pitched although, ShopWithMe is shaping as much as be spherical two of the pyramid scheme Wiesner began with WellStar.
WellStar ended with widespread monetary losses and shell firms collapsing on one another. Count on no totally different when ShopWithMe inevitably implodes.
